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    Book Review: Zion’s Christian Soldiers? by Stephen Sizer

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    A few years ago, one of my Seminary professors said to me that the greatest threat to peace in the Middle East comes from American Christians who have bad theology. While I agreed that many Christians do have bad theology in relationship to the Middle East, I was not so cynical to believe that Christians have that much influence and power to keep peace from being achieved in the Middle East. In this book, Stephen Sizer explained to me that my professor was right.

    It took me some two paragraphs into the preface before I knew that I would like and promote the theology of Stephen Sizer. In this book, Sizer gives a Biblical framework to interpret the events of the Middle East and those concerning the end-times, which is far different than what the traditional evangelical line promotes.

    There are not too many Christian authors who write a critique of Christian Zionism, so I welcome the writing and leadership of Sizer in the ongoing discourse on how Christians ought to think about the Middle East. I know of only one other author, Colin Chapman (Whose Promised Land?) who has written extensively on the issue from a perspective that is more in line with my understanding of Scripture and theology.

    In contrast to Chapman, who does more to explain his amillennialism theology, Sizer takes on an offensive stance against the premillenialists who promote a political and theological position that are not only unbiblical, but dangerous. He goes after the likes of John Hagee of Cornerstone Church, Hal Lindsey of The Great Late Planet Earth, and the Dispensationalists such as Scoffield, tearing down their theology and eschatology. He concedes that his theology is in the minority in the United States, and this book is a sort of appeal not only to American Christians, but Christians everywhere to reject the bad theology that has become the norm in most Christian circles.

    At the very onset of the book, Sizer laments that the greatest threat to the church among the Palestinians has been the theology of Christian Zionists. He convincingly argues that Christian Zionism “probably has a greater detrimental effect” (on the Church) than Jewish Zionism, militant Islam and Christian indifference combined. Christian Zionists (most of whom are Dispensationalists) believe that the creation of the state of Israel was a prophetic event in history that more or less hastened the return of Jesus. Their theology basically says that those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse it  will be cursed (taken from God’s promise to Abraham in Genesis 12).

    In this book, Sizer debunks this sort of thinking and provides an alternative interpretation on how God relates to the Jews, how to read the prophesies, and how to understand the end-times. In addition to a more Biblical understanding of the End Times and the theology of Israel, Sizer also raises the warnings of allowing Dispensiational theology to continue to define American and Christian foreign policy.

    Christians in the United States continue to lead the way in funding organizations and ministries in Israel who are focused on making sure that the “Biblical” boundaries of Israel are respected and that the temple is rebuilt on the Temple Mount (which would mean the destruction of one of the holiest Islamic shrines). Christian Zionism is a dangerous theo-political position that is hell-bent on supporting the state of Israel by all means possible, while turning a blind eye to the teachings of Jesus and Scripture.

    In this book, Sizer says that Googling his name will turn out the ways that he has been criticized and demonized. I hope that my post here will provide some support for an author who has taken a courageous stand in defending Scripture and the plight of the Palestinian people.

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    Commentary:


    Comment from Mordechai December 13, 2008 at 5:25 am

    Dear readers,

    Stephen Sizer is considered by many as Christianity’s answer to Israel Shahak.

    See Seismic Shock for more on Rev Sizer’s surprising connections with Holocaust deniers, the American Far Right and an IRA apologist.

    You will also discover Rev Sizer’s usage of language similar to that of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, his abuse of Holocaust memory and his justification of terrorism.

    Comment from eileen fleming December 13, 2008 at 9:26 am

    “First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you-THAT’s when you win”-Gandhi

    Rev. Sizer is winning for he is on the side of Jesus The Prince of .

    A few, thoughtful, committed lovers and worshipers of The Prince of Peace have begun a Face Book discussion @ Zion’s Christian Soldiers?

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?v=feed&id=798919682#/group.php?gid=38244973842&ref=mf

    The Agitator,

    xoxe

    Comment from Diana December 13, 2008 at 9:29 am

    Excellant article and review! I am all for supporting Stephen on this very important topic. Visit the fan club for ‘Zion’s Christian Solidiers? on Facebook

    Comment from Eddy E December 13, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    To readers and commentators:

    Mordecai (the first comment) holds a position with which I strongly disagree and he proves (along with his blog) that critiquing the Zionist/Christian Zionist theo-politics is unacceptable and a form of anti-Semitism.

    Though I have a right as the owner of this blog to block/delete such insensitive and ill-will positions, I am choosing to allow it to show how ridiculous the Christian Zionist positions are.

    Comment from eileen fleming December 13, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    THANK YOU Eddy for being a true Christian in attitude and proponent of Freedom of Conscience and Speech.

    The insecure will censor others, but those who are securely connected to The Prince of Peace; Emmanuel-God is with US, do automatically what Jesus taught was NON-NEGOTIABLE:

    You MUST provoke your sisters and brothers onto good works, you must forgive, pray for and love your enemies. You must remain NONVIOLENT-even if nailed to a X.

    We must open our hearts and minds and listen to the other and persist to dialogue them into compassion, love, forgiveness, unity, truth, and light.

    “He will teach us his ways, so that we may walk in his paths. The law will go out from Zion, the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. He will judge between the nations. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they make war anymore.” Isaiah 2:3-4

    “This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel. I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God and they will be my people…they will all know me.” Jeremiah 31:33-34

    Godspeed on it!

    xoxe

    Comment from Tom December 13, 2008 at 10:18 pm

    You’re on the right road, at least from my point of view.

    Dialing the whole thing down–and divorcing it from bad religion–might do something practical for poor people.

    Comment from Diana December 15, 2008 at 6:51 am

    Isaiah 59:8 (New International Version)
    8 The way of peace they do not know;
    there is no justice in their paths.
    They have turned them into crooked roads;
    no one who walks in them will know peace.

    The likes of Mordecai have no justice, peace or neighborly love in their words or heart, knowing only to attack, incite and divide rather than peacefully reconcile one another; a discerning heart will easily recognize this.

    Thank you Eddy for providing another link to which one can discern truth from fiction.

    Comment from Shrewsfan December 15, 2008 at 9:22 am

    Eddy,
    Your response to Mordechai is trivial at best. You suggest that Mordechai believes that ” critiquing the Zionist/Christian Zionist theo-politics is unacceptable and a form of anti-Semitism.” He doesn’t. He points out Rev Sizer’s connections to known antisemites, his abuse of Holocaust memory, his use of antisemitic language and his justification of terrorism. Do these things not concern you in the slightest?

    Comment from richard December 15, 2008 at 9:54 am

    What is Sizer winning Eileen? He is only giving rank anti-Semites solace that even a vicar agrees with them. This is NOT the way of Jesus. How Christian is it to call yourself “the agitator” and have others criticise Mordechai as “knowing only to attack, incite and divide rather than peacefully reconcile.” I don’t see much by way of peaceful reconciliation here! Are you all trying to peacfully reconcile with Israel and the Jewish people?

    Reading the Seismic Shock blog shows clearly how Sizer has got his facts wrong on many occasions and how he seems to flirt with very dangerous language and very dangerous people i.e being paid by the late Ayatollah’s daughter to visit Iran, she runs the Holocaust denial institution of Iran, being paid by Hizbollah TV in Lebanon to visit that country and Hizbollah officials etc…

    Where do you get the idea that Moredchai is a Christian Zionist Eddy? I don’t think many of you have actually read much of the Seismic Shock blog, I have had a good read of it and don’t recognise it from the comments you make.

    I won’t pander to your ego by congratulating you for leaving comments you disagree with on your blog, needless to say I think you are setting up your Christian-Zionist straw man to knock him down and then congratulate yourselves on a victory. Engage with the real issues rather than shooting fish in a barrel. You come dangerously close to idol worship of Sizer, he is but a man, can’t you admit that he has got it wrong on many things?

    Comment from Shrewsfan December 15, 2008 at 9:55 am

    BTW have you seen this interesting review of the same book?

    Comment from Shrewsfan December 15, 2008 at 9:56 am

    http://largebluefootballs.blogspot.com/2008/04/overstepping-mark.html

    Comment from Diana December 15, 2008 at 7:28 pm

    The attack dogs have come out with the same old cry of anti-semitism. For those who can see past their garbage take a look at the web site ‘Jews on First’ and find out what anti-semtism really is, attackng the critique of a warped theology is not.

    Comment from Diana December 15, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    Hi Eddy,

    Have you seen the brochure the National Council of Churches put out on the dangers of ‘Christian Zionism’?
    http://www.ncccusa.org/news/081202christianzionismbrochure.html

    Comment from Tom December 15, 2008 at 10:51 pm

    Dude, you’re among the true believers. Tough crowd :^) Whether you get praised or punished depends on how much you say yes.

    Comment from Shrewsfan December 16, 2008 at 2:32 am

    Diana,
    Rather than simply dismissing those you disagree with as “attack dogs”, why not actually engage with their arguments (if you are able)? When Sizer abuses Holocaust memory, associates with Holocaust deniers, & refers to supporters of Israel as “people in the shadows”, do you not think that concerns about antisemitism might actually be justified, rather than a dishonest ploy by those cunning Jews to further their own purposes?

    Comment from richard December 16, 2008 at 2:41 am

    “Attack dogs” come on love!

    Are you suggesting that I can’t even express concern about rising anti-Semitism within Christian anti-Zionist thinking without being dismissed by having it called “garbage” and “the same old cry of anti-semitism”? The old cry of anti-semitism goes up because the old hatred of anti-semitism still exists sweetheart!

    Who is a true believer Tom, those who hate the Jews or those who love them?

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 6:56 am

    OK, I will bite, just on the chance this may lead to an actual reasonable discussion. To begin, have you read any of Rev. Sizers books in their entirety or seen any of his presentations? If so I would like to know what you consider, be specific, anti-Semite and what you consider to be Sizers exact misuse use of the Holocaust?

    Yes, I have read Rev. Sizers books and I have witnessed his loving and caring presentations, along with the Q & A’s, which only reveal a true love for all people whether they be Jewish, Muslim or Christian. Yes, all life must be treated as equal or we will never see peace in God’s Land.

    To Chastise a government i.e Israel, i.e. America, i.e. the U.K, etc. is NOT anti-Semite, anti-American or anti-Brit. If one disciplines a child does that make one anti-child. Israel is not above the law nor or those who support Zionism. Christian Zionism is a warped theology that is gravely harming the face of Christianity, anyone who sincerely applies the criteria supplied by Christ will easily recognize this.

    Yes I will agree anti-Semitism, along with anti-Arab(also Semite. , Anti Palestinian (also Semite) does exist.

    Comment from eileen fleming December 16, 2008 at 8:10 am

    I say it is time to evolve-be born again as Jesus called it-meaning a Transformation of Heart and Mind to see The Divine in everyone.

    The problem is NOT with Judaism or the Jews, but an IDEOLOGY of superiority that is racist and led to 750,000 refugees created in 1947-48 and the ethnic cleansing continues on aided and abetted by USA tax dollars, politicians beholden to AIPAC and a diluted polluted cult of Christianity that seeks a nuclear holocaust.

    I say, let us define just WHO is our Jesus-and if he be The Prince of Peace-NO WAY can one support violence of any kind.

    I would LOVE to read what anyone has to say re:

    The Stages of the Soul and How Religiosity/Fundamentalism is holding up Evolution:

    http://www.wearewideawake.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1132&Itemid=213

    Comment from James December 16, 2008 at 8:32 am

    Hi Diana
    I have read both of his major books and much of his website. Noone has suggested that simply to criticise Israel’s government in antisemitic! But some aspects of Rev Sizer’s output go way beyond that.

    His abuse of Holocaust memory:
    http://seismicshock.blogspot.com/2008/12/stephen-sizer-abuse-of-holocaust-memory.html

    His use of antisemitic sources:
    http://largebluefootballs.blogspot.com/2008/04/overstepping-mark.html

    HIs apparent connections to Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis:
    http://seismicshock.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-his-blog-today-stephen-sizer-writes.html

    His use of antisemitic language in a national newspaper:
    http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=259

    Yes extreme Christian Zionism has its dangers. So too does an extreme Christian anti-Zionism which may (however unwittingly) slide into outright antisemitism. I believe that some British Christians are running this risk, I hope American Christians don’t make the same mistake:
    http://www.bmja.net/chai233.htm

    Comment from James December 16, 2008 at 9:10 am

    Eileen,
    You made the false “ethnic cleansing” charge a few months ago here: http://seismicshock.blogspot.com/2008/09/bigmouth-strikes-again-stephen-sizer.html

    When confronted with a well-documented challenge to your sources and allegations, you shifted the issue and ducked away. The fact that you are repeating the charge here says a lot about your agenda and methodology.

    Comment from Mordechai December 16, 2008 at 9:17 am

    If so I would like to know what you consider, be specific, anti-Semite and what you consider to be Sizers exact misuse use of the Holocaust?

    Hi Diana, maybe it’s his comparing of Jews with Nazis, or the interview he gave to Far Right American antisemite Mark Dankof whose radio station defends Holocaust deniers, or maybe it’s his connections with Holocaust deniers.

    He also claims that the Yad Vashem Holocaust museum is a Jewish tourist site which by the Israeli government uses to manipulate Western Christian tourists. (See my commentary on this here).

    Surely this is misuse of Holocaust memory.

    Comment from richard December 16, 2008 at 9:34 am

    Eileen, must say I found your response a bit weird, you sound like a panentheist rather than a Christian – “the divine in everyone”! We are image bearers of God but there is no “divine in us”.

    Eileen you fail to mention the 850,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries. http://www.jimena.org/

    Do you condemn Arab violence against Israel with equal vigor? You sound like you hate Israel more than you love Palestinians!

    I take it you are a pacifist then? In which case you condemn all Christians in the Armed Forces everywhere and suggest that their profession is incompatible with their faith.

    Would Jesus not them be able to defend his own violent action in the Temple when he scourged the traders there? Why did Jesus not tell soldiers to leave the army, rather just telling them to act justly?

    Zionism is not racism, it is Jewish national self determinism and self defence. Israel is a multi-ethnic, multi-faith democracy! Sizer misleads people by quoting the UN resolution that Zionism is racism as the UN revoked it not long after.

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I rest my case……..

    Below is a quote from an excellant commentary titled “Abandoning Our Archaic Fears”

    By Rabbi Haim Dov Beliak, JewsOnFirst.org
    http://www.jewsonfirst.org/07c/beliak_sermon_highholiday07.html

    “Neither Christians nor Zionists”
    An evangelical friend of mine claims that Christian Zionists are neither Christian nor Zionist.

    He says they are not Christian as he understands Christianity to mean following a peace-loving role model, Jesus. They fall short as Zionists because of their blood lust for Armageddon, an end-times military conflict needed to presage the return of Jesus, a prophecy they extract from the New Testament book of Revelation.

    Christian Zionists believe that Jews are key players in that end-times drama. They see it beginning with with the 1917 Balfour Declaration recognizing Britian’s promise to facilitate a national home in Palestine for Jews. They see the next act of the drama open with the founding of the state of Israel in 1948. Act 3 for them was Israel’s conquest of the West Bank and Gaza forty years ago. Now that Jews control Jerusalem, say Christian Zionists, they must build the Temple and restore animal sacrifices.” (What meaning does THIS give do Christ’s suffering on the Cross?)(Continue at site)

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 11:15 am

    OK, Maybe, I should not have said the ‘Attack dogs’ forgive me.

    I still rest my case, I will not waste my time on websites that attack, spread deceit and hate, choosing to divide instead of reconcile.

    The original post has laid wonderful ground work for the fruitful exploration of the topic of Christian Zionism. If one attach’s Christianity to something then one must see Christ.

    Comment from James December 16, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Sorry Diana, that sounds like a massive cop-out to me. Are you seriously suggesting that when (say) Sizer’s decision to label a photo of Bethlehem with the caption “Arbeit macht frei” is in no way antisemitic?

    What on any of the websites spread deceit and hate? CAn you please give specific examples?

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    I can very well understand a modern day photo of Bethlehem being labeled and ‘compared to’ a sign posted over the gate to a Nazi concentration camp, where horrors beyond horrors were committed. You might ask Mitri Raheb about some of the horrors he and his own family have suffered, better yet read his book, ‘Bethlehem Besieged’. No using German words to ‘describe’ the ‘circumstances’ in the Palestinian territories is not anti-Semitic.

    The fact that there are those who choose to attack anyone who dares criticize Israel or dares to use terminology like ‘apartheid’, ‘bantustan’ and ‘genocide’ as anti-semitic is obscene. Especially when Israel’s own prominent historian Ilan Pappe declares that Palestine is being ethnically cleansed. Of course you know of all the many Jewish organizations who are speaking out against the horrors inflicted on the Palestinian peoples. If you do not then you might start with http://jewishpeacenews.blogspot.com/

    I am curious how many Palestinians you personally know who live or have lived the horrors of the current, on going, 40+ year occupation? Have you actually gone to the West Bank or Gaza walked among, talked to and tried to learn first hand what is actually going on? What of the Christians that are fleeing their home lands, land their families have lived centuries on?

    One of my absolute favorite books is written by the Arch Bishop of Galilee, Abuna Elias Chacour, titled ‘Blood Brother’. The book is more than just a book about history but a very inspiring book about and man’s relationship with Jesus Christ.

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Hi Eddy,

    I appologize, Did you know what you were getting into?

    Peace,
    Diana

    Comment from richard December 16, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    Blimey Diana what kind of people do you know that have a blood lust for Armageddon – my Eschatology doesn’t include that. I’m not dispensationalist or premill. You’re kind of missing the point aiming that one at me!

    What case are you resting exactly? Are you arguing for the total pacifist position as the Quakers do? In that case you will alienate a large number of reformed evangelicals and much of the historic Christian position on just wars etc.

    Thanks for withdrawing the “attack dogs”, bless you :-)

    I still contend that Sizer is far from accurate with his facts in his books, both of which I’ve read along with lots of his web site & blog. I seriously question the wisdom of his writing in Islamic journals and criticising fellow evangelical missions, it’s as if he paints a target on them for Al Qeida & Hamas to aim at!

    Comment from Diana December 16, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    Richard,
    You sound like an interesting character :) . I do know a few Quakers and they are wonderful, loving people. I hate war and believe there is never any winners. Is war justified? I think very seldom, the European theater during WWII, IMO, yes. I do not support pre-emptive strikes and most lkely will never support a war the rest of my life, I prefer instead to work on my mustard seed/faith. Are we not taught all things are possible?

    Now what in particular is inaccurate in Stephen’s book? Specifics wth page numbers would be nice. How many Muslims do you know Richard?

    Comment from James December 17, 2008 at 3:26 am

    Diana,
    Please click through the links already posted. They contain plenty of page references and links to Sizer’s website.

    Here’s my article again which summarises much of my concerns about Sizer. You’ll find references to his use of antisemitic language, his use of the antisemitic 9/11 libel, his suggestion that Zionist leaders collaborated with the Nazis. The page numbers and references are all there.

    http://www.bmja.net/chai233.htm

    For some of Rev Sizer’s more absurd historical errors, see my blog post http://largebluefootballs.blogspot.com/2008/07/stephen-sizer-outdoes-himself.html

    Comment from Diana December 17, 2008 at 10:25 am

    James,
    I care not to visit your blog as it is much the same as Mordecai’s. I tend to favor referrals and recommendations made by those with scholarly degrees, such as Professor Gary M. Burge, Dr. Paul Copan, Rev. Kenneth Cragg, Dr. Stan Moody, Prof. Donald Wagner, Dr. John Wilks, and on and on and on……

    I am sorry but criticism of a governments policies is NOT Anti-Semitic.

    Some Jewish groups that would argue your claim of Anti-Semitism.

    http://www.btselem.org/English/Publications/index.asp
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
    http://gush-shalom.org/
    http://www.icahd.org/eng/

    Comment from Diana December 17, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    James, You might want to take a look at the book

    ‘Zionism and Anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany’
    Francis R. Nicosia
    University of Vermont
    Below taken from Cambridge University Press
    http://www.cambridge.org/us/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521883924

    This is a study of the ideological and political relationship between Zionism and anti-Semitism in modern Germany, from the nineteenth century through the Third Reich, focusing on the years between 1933 and 1942. It considers three contentious issues in post-Holocaust historiography and debate: the nature of modern German anti-Semitism; the decision-making process leading to the Nazi mass murder of the Jews of Europe; and the nature and role of German Zionism in German-Jewish history before the Holocaust. This study sheds more light on both the ideological and practical assault of German anti-Semitism and Nazi Jewish policy on the Jews of Central Europe, as well as the ideological and political response of some German Jews, the Zionists, to that assault. It concludes that the attitudes and policies of German anti-Semitism and National Socialism toward Zionism reflect a relatively consistent ideology that was applied in an inconsistent and contradictory manner.

    Contents
    1. The age of emancipation in Imperial Germany; 2. The Weimar years; 3. 1933: Nazi confusion: Zionist illusion; 4. Zionism in Nazi Jewish policy, 1934–1938; 5. German Zionism, 1934–1938: confrontation with reality; 6. Revisionist Zionism in Germany, 1934–1938; 7. Occupational retraining and Nazi Jewish policy; 8. From dissolution to final solution, 1938–1941; Conclusions; Bibliography; Index.

    Reviews
    “The author has succeeded in laying to rest impressions and politically inspired arguments about an ideological proximity and real collaboration between the Nazis and the Zionists, except when the Nazis shared temporarily and with growing limitations the Zionist goal of allowing Jews to leave Germany and to settle in the Jewish National Home.” -Shlomo Aronson, Hebrew University, Jerusalem, and University of Arizona, Tuscon.

    “With careful precision Francis Nicosia has unraveled the complex relationship between German Zionists and their Nazi interlocutors. Both rejected the legacy of Jewish emancipation and both called for Jews to leave Germany. But while Zionists understood Nazism as a traumatic prelude to eventual Jewish renewal in Palestine, Nazi officials grotesquely used Zionism toward their goal of Jewish ruination. That German Zionists operated under extreme pressures while overestimating their prospects for success makes the story all the more tragic. Nicosia’s book is an essential read for anyone interested in German and Jewish history.” -Norman J.W. Goda, Ohio University

    “Professor Nicosia’s expert knowledge of the Nazi connection with the Middle East and Palestine in particular has long been honored. In this book he again demonstrates his mastery of the field, focusing on the relationship between the Nazis eager to rid Germany of Jews and German Zionists eager to steer them toward Palestine. It was never a relationship of equals, of course; the Nazis despised the Zionists no less than any other Jews. He tells the story of Zionists who, from a position of weakness, were dealing with a regime that scorned them and eventually tried to murder them all. To tell this story Professor Nicosia has mined some two dozen archives in Germany, Israel, the United States, England and Russia. It is a compelling story and a depressing one indeed.” – Karl A. Schleunes, University of North Carolina at Greensboro

    Comment from Diana December 17, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    James,

    This also from the website Jews against Zionism
    http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/jewishwar.cfm

    “On March 27, 1933 the planned protest at Madison Square Garden was attended by 40,000 protestors (New York Daily News headlines: “40,000 Roar Protest Here Against Hitler”).

    Similar rallies and protest marches were also held in other cities. The intensity of the Jewish campaign against Germany was such that the Hitler government vowed that if the campaign did not stop there would be a one-day boycott in Germany of Jewish-owned stores.

    Hitler’s March 28, 1933 speech ordering a boycott against Jewish stores and goods was in direct response to the declaration of war on Germany by the worldwide Jewish leadership.

    That same spring of 1933 there began a period of private cooperation between the German government and the Zionist movement in Germany and worldwide to increase the flow of German-Jewish immigrants and capital to Palestine.

    Growing anti-Semitism in Germany and by the German government in response to the boycott played into the hands of the Zionist leaders. Prior to the escalation of anti-Semitism as a result of the boycott the majority of German Jews had little sympathy for the Zionist cause of promoting the immigration of world Jewry to Palestine. Making the situation in Germany as uncomfortable for the Jews as possible, in cooperation with German National Socialism, was part of the Zionist plan to achieve their goal of populating Palestine with a Jewish majority.

    “For all intents and purposes, the National Socialist government was the best thing to happen to Zionism in its history, for it “proved” to many Jews that Europeans were irredeemably anti-Jewish and that Palestine was the only answer: Zionism came to represent the overwhelming majority of Jews solely by trickery and cooperation with Adolf Hitler.” [1]”

    I actually prefer to discuss this subject here where Eddy can moderate a fair discussion. I have my copy of ‘Zion’s Christian Soldiers?’ next to me ready to open to any page you say.

    Comment from James December 17, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Diana,
    Sorry, but can you please point out to me where I have said that it is antisemitic to criticise the policies of Israel’s government?

    Comment from Eddy E December 17, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Wow, what a discussion. I did not imagine it to get this ‘heated’ considering most of my book reviews or blog posts don’t generate this much discussion.

    I do appreciate that the conversation can still be passionate yet offer more civility.

    Diana, I’m not sure i can moderate any more of a discussion than this post. The discussion has gone all over the place, from critiquing history to critiquing character to critiquing Sizer.

    I do still want to underline that critiquing zionism is not anti-semitism. And it is unfortunate that the there is little space to disagree with zionism without being labeled an anti-semite. For those who support zionism and think that you can be critical of zionism without being labeled as such, I’d love for you to point out people who are critics and yet you would not label as anti-semetic.

    I also think that one can support Israel for political and geo-political reasons without the need for a Biblical mandate. That’s really the reason for Sizer’s book, and why I recommend it. I think Dispensationalism is dangerous (for it’s implications on this issue and many others) because it has turned a blind eye to the politics of the Middle East and has demonized everything outside of Israel.

    And for the record: Have Arab countries and Palestinians done evil? Yes!

    Comment from Diana December 17, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    There is so much to learn regarding the history of modern day Israel and Palestine and the layers are multifaceted be it religion, political or secular. I still have so much to learn. All peoples in God’s Holy deserve and need to feel safe and secure, Jew, Christian and Muslim alike as we are all the same in God’s eye, equally loved and wanted. I will say I have very close ties to friends and family living in God’s Land, so I am not without bias. I also know Dr. Sizer and take offense at any criticism directed toward him as he truly has the interest of all peoples in his heart and calling, wishing to reconcile neighbor with neighbor.

    To say there are not those who jump on the band wagon to cry anti-Semitism at any thing negative regarding Israel is naive, for no better word. These people love to manipulate the conversation and content of this subject. Zionism at the expense of another’s life, livelihood, homes and land is wrong, this does not mean I or others do not support Israel and their right to exist, of course these wonderful people do have this right. But even in Biblical times when the Israelites controlled the land they were required to love neighbor as self, the land has never been exclusively Jewish. It is time for all peoples to pursue a just peace for all in God’s Holy Land. By seeking a true and just peace for all we then honor God. Yes I agree both sides have done horrible things.

    Comment from James December 17, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Eddie:
    I am a Zionist because I believe Israel has the right to exist and defend herself. I disagree with her settlement policty, the route (though not the existence) of her security barrier, her policy towards Messianic Jews, and some of the actions of her military. I am for a two-state solution and for a withdrawal from the Westy Bank. I have never yet been called an antisemite. Nor have David Hirsh, Melanie Phillips, a whole host of left-wing ZIonists such as Shlomo Lappin or any of the contrributors to the Engage website – have a look – http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog

    Can you or Diana please (again) give me one example of anyone being called antisemitic simply for criticising the policies of the Israeli government, either here or anyone else? (Though you probably weren’t aware of it, your charge is a variant on what is called the Livingstone Formulation – see http://www.z-word.com/on-zionism/antisemitism-and-anti-zionism/anti-zionism-and-antisemitism%253A-decoding-the-relationship.html?page=2). You also seem to misunderstand the difference between “criticism” and “demonisation”. Saying “Israeli policies in the West Bank are frequently brutal and short-sighted” is not antisemitic; it may even be true. Comparing Isarel with Nazi Germany (which Sizer has done) is demonisation, because Israel is not murdering 6 millions Arabs with gas and then burning their boides in industrial crematoria. Is that not obvious?

    I don’t know if you looked at my review of Sizer’s book at http://largebluefootballs.blogspot.com/search?q=overstepping (DIana seems frightened of it for some reason) but I have given examples of how Sizer demonises Israel as a racist state and cites known antisemites (and I have shown why I refer to them as such) to bolster his arguments. Yes his critique of dispensationalism has much going for it, as I make clear. But that shouldn’t blind his readers to a dangerous undercurrent in his writings. Sadly, some preominent British evangelicals seem to have been blinded. Please please please don’t go the same way!

    Comment from richard December 18, 2008 at 4:10 am

    Hi Eddy, you think this is heated, you should hear my sisters when they have a go at each other!!!

    I’ve not said criticising Zionism or Israel is automatically anti-Semitic, but neither am I saying it cannot become anti-Semitic, hope you recognise that as well?

    Diana, I hate war and injustice, I don’t know any Christians in the military that love war either and my dad was in the army for 26 years! When you live in a tiny country your opinion of pre-emptive strikes change! I’m guessing you live in the States, such a massive country compared to the UK, Ireland or Israel. Have you ever experienced a terror attack other than watching it on TV? I have and I wish there had been a pre-emptive strike on the terrorists.

    I know loads of Muslims, Persians and Arabs Diana, we had Israeli, Jewish and Palestinian friends at our wedding, my son has Muslim class mates and we have Muslim neighbours. I am friends with an ex-Muhajadeen from Afghanistan. How about you?

    Regarding the errors in Sizer’s books, I’ve read the posting by James he gives a pretty clear list. If you are interested enough read Rev Mike Moore’s article Stephen Sizer and Anti-Zionism in the Mishkan Journal, a forum on the Gospel and the Jewish people, issue 55 page 39. I ordered it from the Pasche Institute in Dallas http://www.mishkanstore.org or Rev Barry Horner, Future Israel – Why Christian anti-Judaism must be challenged. B&H Academic.

    Let’s not forget in all this that Dispensationalists are still our brothers and sisters in Christ, please, please just a little less denomisation in the disagreement.

    Comment from eileen fleming December 18, 2008 at 6:32 am

    Good and Evil cut through every human heart.

    In Tel Aviv “on March 10, 1948, eleven men had a meeting in the Red House headed by Ben Gurion. The eleven decided to expel one million Palestinians from historical Palestine. No minutes were taken, but many memoirs were written about that fateful meeting. A systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestine began and within seven months the Zionists managed to expel one half of all the Palestinian people from their villages and towns.”-Dr. Ilan Pappe.

    Dr. Pappe is Israeli born and a graduate of Hebrew University and Oxford and was still teaching at Haifa University when I heard him speak. He is a well known revisionist or “post-Zionist” Israeli historian who has been both acclaimed and demonized. His most recent work is A History of Modern Palestine: One Land, Two Peoples which documents the expulsion of Palestinians as an orchestrated crime of ethnic cleansing.

    Dr. Ilan Pappe spoke in East Jerusalem, Nov. 8, 2006 at the Notre Dame Conference center to over 330 International ecumenical Christians during Sabeel’s [www.sabeel.org] 6th International Conference: The Forgotten Faithful: AKA Palestinian Christians.

    His topic was the “Dynamics of Forgetting” and because of the “fierce urgency of now” [-Rev. MLK, Jr.] the world is beginning to remember that once there was a Red House, which birthed a most diabolical plan.

    He stated, “The Red House in Tel Aviv is gone now. It was a typical building in Tel Aviv that had all the characteristics of Mediterranean homes but with the local Palestinian architecture of the ’20′s. Today a USA Sheraton Hotel stands in its place. The Red House was the home of the Hagganah; a Jewish underground organization but before 1948 it was the home of a socialist movement, from which it received its name.”

    Haganah is Hebrew for “The Defense” and was a Jewish paramilitary organization formed in what was then the British Mandate for Palestine from 1920 to 1948. It began as a small group of “Jewish immigrants who guarded settlements for an annual fee. At no time did the group have more than 100 members until after the Arab riots of 1920 and 1921. The Jewish leadership in Palestine believed that the British, whom the League of Nations had given the Mandate of Palestine in 1920, had no desire to confront the Arabs about attacks on the Palestinian Jews, and thus created the Haganah to protect their farmers and settlements. The initial role of the Haganah was to guard the Jewish Kibbutzim and farms, and to warn the residents of and repel attacks by Palestinian Arabs.

    “In the period between 1920 and 1929, the Haganah lacked a strong central authority or coordination. Haganah “units” were very localized and poorly armed: they consisted mainly of Jewish farmers who took turns guarding their farms or their kibbutzim. Following the Arab 1929 Hebron massacre that led to the ethnic cleansing by the British authorities of all Jews from the city of Hebron, the Haganah’s role changed dramatically. It became a much larger organization encompassing nearly all the youth and adults in the Jewish settlements, as well as thousands of members from the cities. It also acquired foreign arms and began to develop workshops to create hand grenades and simple military equipment. It went from being an untrained militia to a capable army.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagganah

    The British did not officially recognize the Haganah,but the British security forces cooperated with it by forming the Jewish Settlement Police, Jewish Auxiliary Forces and Special Night Squads. By 1931, the most right-wing elements of Haganah branched off and formed Irgun Tsva’i-Leumi (the National Military Organization), better known as “Irgun” (or by its Hebrew acronym, pronounced “HaEtsel”). They were discontented with the policy of restraint when faced with British and Arab pressure and “terrorists” in their own right. Irgun later split in 1940, and their off-shoot became known as the “Lehi” (Hebrew acronym of Lochamei Herut Israel, standing for Freedom Fighters of Israel, and also known by the British as the “Stern Gang” after its leader, Abraham Stern).

    Because the British severely restricted Jewish immigration to Palestine, in 1939 the Haganah created the Palmach – the Haganah’s strike force, which also organized illegal Jewish immigration of over 100,000 Jews to Palestine.

    In 1944, in response to the assassination of Lord Moyne (the British Minister of State for the Middle East) by members of the Jewish Lehi underground, the Haganah worked with the British to round up, interrogate, and, in some cases, deport Irgun members. This action was called the Saison (or hunting season), and seriously demoralized the Irgun and reduced its activities.

    The Saison could not stop the Irgun, Haganah and the Stern Group from working together. The three groups had different functions, which served to move the British out of Palestine and to make Palestine a Jewish state rather than created a Jewish home in Palestine.

    Menachem Begin, an Irgun commander, stated in a 1944 meeting: “In fact, there is a division of roles; One organization advocates individual terrorism (the Lehi), the other conducts sporadic military operations (the Irgun) and there is a third organisation which prepares itself to throw its final weight in the decisive war.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagganah

    According to Dr. Pappe, “On March 10, 1948, eleven men had a meeting in the Red House headed by Ben Gurion. The eleven decided to expel one million Palestinians from historical Palestine. No minutes were taken, but many memoirs were written about that fateful meeting. A systematic ethnic cleansing of Palestine began and within seven months the Zionists managed to expel one half of all the Palestinian people from their villages and towns.

    “The New York Times followed Israeli troops and reported the truth of the expulsion and separation of men and women, and of the many massacres. The world was well informed in 1948, but a year later not a trace was reported in the USA press or books. It was as if nothing ever happened.

    “From March to October 1948 the USA State Department stated what was happening was a CRIME against humanity and ethnic cleansing. When ever one ethnic group expels another group they should be treated as War Criminals and the victims should be allowed to return. This is never mentioned in the USA about Palestine.

    “Israel is so successful in their ethnic cleansing because the world doesn’t care! The ethnic cleansing continues via the apartheid policies of the Israeli government and because of the denial of the truth by the USA media.

    “To claim Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East is bullshit! The Six Day War of 1967 escalated the ethnic cleansing and today in Jerusalem every Palestinian who fails to pay taxes, or has a minor infraction will loose their citizenship.

    “In 1948 the mechanism of denial and ethnic cleansing as an IDEOLOGY, not a policy but a formula began. When Zionism began in the 19th century it was meant to be a safe haven for Jews and to help redefine Judaism as a national movement, not just a religion. Nothing wrong with either of those goals!

    “But by the late 19th Century it was decided the only way these goals could be achieved was by ridding the indigenous population and it became an evil ideology.

    “Israeli Jewish life will never be simple, good, or worth living while this ideology of domination, exclusiveness and superiority is allowed to continue. The mind set today is that unless Israel is an exclusive Jewish State, Palestinians will continue to be obstacles. However, there has always been a small vocal minority challenging this.

    “The only thing that can save Palestinians is for the world to say “ENOUGH is ENOUGH!” The way to challenge and change the ethnic cleansing is to pursue true democracy and the use of sanctions and divestment, for money talks.”[end Dr. Pappe]

    “America’s $84.8 billion in aid to Israel from fiscal years 1949 through 1998, and the interest the U.S. paid to borrow this money, has cost U.S. taxpayers $134.8 billion, not adjusted for inflation. Or, put another way, the nearly $14,630 every one of 5.8 million Israelis received from the U.S. government by Oct. 31, 1997 has cost American taxpayers $23,240 per Israeli.”
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html

    “The Israeli government and military receive $15,139,178.00 from the USA every day while NGO’s working to feed and care for the poor in Palestine receive $232,290.00 from the USA per day.”
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stats/usaid.html

    In June 2005, I visited Rev. Naim Ateek at his Jerusalem Sabeel [www.sabeel.org ]office. I had been reading the Sabeel Documents about the divestment issue especially in regards to Sabeel’s position on morally responsible investment as a nonviolent response to the occupation. I commented then that is exactly the issue American Christians should be discussing and not the continuing debate over the mystery of love and marriage in regards to gays and lesbians and the ordination of the first HONEST gay Bishop Gene Robinson.

    “The fierce urgency of now”[Rev. MLK, Jr.] should compel all USA citizens to seriously consider, debate and take action on where we lay down our money, what we invest in and how our government spends our hard earned tax dollars.

    To continue to support corporations that support occupation and fuel the fire of terrorism should be morally repugnant to any one of good will as those actions are not democratic.

    Rev. Ateek has been demonized as an anti-Semite because of his outspoken and firm stand for justice and only justice as the way to peace and security for all the people in the Holy Land.

    People have rights, governments have obligations!

    JUSTICE requires equal human rights for all and that governments honor international law.

    Money talks and the USA should only support democracies that are true to that name, for a democracy guarantees, delivers and protects all people with equal human rights.

    IMAGINE when Israel keeps its very own words:

    “On the day of the termination of the British mandate and on the strength of the United Nations General Assembly declare The State of Israel will be based on freedom, justice and peace as envisaged by the prophets of Israel: it will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion it will guarantee freedom of religion [and] conscience and will be faithful to the Charter of the United Nations.” – May 14, 1948. The Declaration of the Establishment of Israel

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    Comment from James December 18, 2008 at 9:23 am

    “My bias is apparent despite the desire of my peers that I stick to facts and the “truth” when reconstructing past realities. I view any such construction as vain and presumptuous. This book is written by one who admits compassion for the colonized not the colonizer; who sympathizes with the occupied not the occupiers” [Dr Ilan Pappe]

    [Eileen, that would make most people think twice about citing Pappe as a credible source. So would the fact that he has given an interview to a neo-Nazi newspaper:
    http://www.engageonline.org.uk/blog/article.php?id=1856. Why doesn't it make you think twice?]

    Comment from richard December 18, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Eddy, now Elieen has responded it is heated!!! Ah Wikipeadia the source of all true and accurate information ;-)

    Illan Pappe, the notorious self-hating Jew and historical revisionist. Read The Jewish Divide Over Israel by Alexander and Bogdanor (eds) Illan Pappe is an Israeli communist and hates his own state as a member of the Hadash, Israeli communist party. Pappe said that historical research is “a backward-looking projection of political attitudes and agendas regardless if actual facts.” (History of Modern Palestine)

    As it is said, “by their sources you shall know them”!

    Eileen, breath a little, do summit,take a walk by the lake with your doggy, do some exercises!

    Comment from Diana December 18, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Interesting how everyone thinks they have the right truth……There is wise and old saying, ‘Walk a mile in my shoes’. Peace and Merry Christmas

    Comment from richard December 18, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    As long as they ain’t high heels my precious! :-)

    Happy Christmas one and all

    Comment from eileen fleming December 18, 2008 at 6:57 pm

    LOL all the way!

    “First they ignore they. Then they laugh at you. Then they attack you-and that’s when you win!”-Gandhi

    I remind you that 2,000 years ago a little babe of Bethlehem was born under military occupation.

    The term ‘Christian’ was not even coined until the days of Paul, about 3 decades after Jesus:

    AKA: The Prince of Peace walked the earth and taught that it is the peacemakers who are the children of God, NOT those that bomb, occupy or torture other ones!

    2,000 years ago The Cross had NO symbolic religious meaning and was not a piece of jewelry.

    When JC said: “Pick up your cross and follow me” everyone THEN understood he was issuing a POLITICAL statement, for the main roads into Jerusalem were lined with crucified agitators, rebels, dissidents and any who disturbed the status quo of the Roman Empire and Military Occupying Forces.

    Jesus, while never a Christian, was a social, justice, radical revolutionary Palestinian devout Jewish road warrior who rose up against the corrupt Temple authorities and challenged their job security by teaching the people they did NOT need to pay the priests for ritual baths or sacrificing livestock to be OK with God; for God LOVED them just as they were:

    Sinners, poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under the Roman Empire and Military Occupation.

    What got JC crucified was disturbing the status quo of the Roman Empire and Occupying Forces by teaching the subversive concept that God preferred the humble sinner, the poor, diseased, outcasts, widows, orphans, refugees and prisoners all living under the Roman Empire and Military Occupation above the elite and arrogant.

    The early followers and lovers of Jesus were called members of THE WAY-being THE WAY he taught one should be and that his sisters and brothers were those that DID the will of the Father:

    “What does God require? He has told you o’man! Be just, be merciful, and walk humbly with your Lord.” -Micah 6:8

    IMAGINE when all who claim to be Christian-do it the way Jesus taught and modeled it with his life!

    xoxe

    Eileen Fleming, Author, Founder WAWA:
    http://www.wearewideawake.org/
    Producer “30 Minutes With Vanunu” and “13 Minutes with Vanunu”

    Comment from richard December 19, 2008 at 3:12 am

    Eileen love, Jesus was never a Palestinian, he was King of the Jews and because of that historical fact fulfilling Israel’s prophets, Saviour of the World. The New Testament NEVER mention Palestine, it talks about “The land of Israel” Matthew 2:20-21. You are reinterpreting Holy Scripture by your own political prejudice, exactly what you accuse the Christian Zionists of doing!

    It is the meek who inherit the earth! Peacemakers are blessed.
    It is not by our works including peacemaking that we become children of God, John 1:12 “But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God.” As an older preacher once said “from the guttermost to the uttermost”. This is the glory of Christmas and the Incarnation, it is far beyond the corrupt politics of the nations of this world.

    Why the Ghandi quote again? First mix the cake, then put the cake in the oven, then you have a cake to eat…!

    You exaggerate about the roads to Jerusalem being lined with crosses, that happened in Rome. You may have been watching The Life of Brian too much.

    Comment from eileen fleming December 19, 2008 at 6:49 am

    “Every scribe [writer, author] who has been instructed in the Kingdom of heaven is like the head of a household who brings forth from his storeroom both the new and the old.”-Matthew 13:52

    And that is what I do and i do it best by spinning ancient scriptures for the 21st century:

    Excerpted from “KEEP HOPE ALIVE”

    Brother Harold lifted his almost empty pouch of Crown Royal and exclaimed, “Let’s toast the man, and then I’ll tell you what my daddy told me when I was a kid, when my brothers and I would get out of hand. He’d say, ‘boys, you all are going the way of Cain and Abel, and you’d better quit. For one of those boys was filled with so much hatred and jealousy that he killed the other.’

    “Then my old man would be on a roll, and he’d tell us about Sarah, Abraham’s wife. And we loved to hear that part, so we’d quit our fight. You see, although Sarah was already menopaused, she still desired a child. God had even shared a laugh with her about it coming true, but just like a woman, she took the matter into her own hands, and refused to wait for the Lord to deliver. So old Sarah decided to give her maidservant to her old man, and that chick and Abraham made a kid. Everything was fine when Ishmael arrived, but only for a very short while.

    “Now, although Sarah was a dried-up old crone, she, too, birthed a son, and named him after the laughter she had shared with God, but called the kid Isaac. Sarah had gotten very territorial and demanded Abraham cast out his beloved first son with his mama Haggar, into the barren wilderness, and Abraham did it! But, as God always hears the cries of mothers and sons, he promised to make a great nation from Ishmael’s descendants, too. And thus, the Arab nation was born.

    “By the sixth century before Christ, the conflicts in the land were already old news, and Jeremiah warned the people that all God could see was violence and destruction in the city. Sickness and wounds were all around. And then my old man would get tears in his eyes and softly recite,

    ‘for every misunderstanding, every condemning thought, every negative vibration, every tear torn from a heart, every time one grabbed and wouldn’t let go, and they only did it because they did not know. The Divine is within all creation and within all women and men.

    ‘And every tiny kindness you have ever done, every gentle word spoken, every time you held your tongue, every positive thought, every smile freely given, every helping hand that opens, helps bring in the kingdom. And the kingdom comes from above, and it comes from within. Imagine a kingdom of sisterhood of all creatures and all men.’”

    The first mention of Israel is in Genesis, when Jacob struggled/wrestled and then clung to The Divine being and was renamed Israel.

    I contented that Israel is ANYONE who does the same and not just a geographical piece of real estate carved up by ‘civilized’ white men who thus created one unholy mess!

    About 2,000 years ago, when Christ was about 33, he hiked up a hill and sat down under an olive tree and began to teach the people;

    “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.”

    In other words: it is those who know their own spiritual poverty, their own limitations and sins honestly and trust God loves them in spite of themselves who already live in the Kingdom of God.

    How comforted we will all be, when we see, we haven’t got a clue, as to the depth and breadth of pure love and mercy of The Divine Mystery of The Universe.

    God’s name in ancient Aramaic is Abba which means Daddy as much as Mommy and He/She: The Lord has said, “My ways are not your ways. My thoughts are not yours.” -Isaiah 55:8

    Christ proclaimed more: “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.”

    The essence of meek is to be patient with ignorance, slow to anger and never hold a grudge. In other words: how comforted you will be when you also know humility; when you know yourself, the good and the bad, for both cut through every human heart.

    “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, they will be filled.”

    In other words: how comforted you will be when your greatest desire is to do what “God requires, and he has already told you what that is; BE JUST, BE MERCIFUL and walk humbly with your Lord.”-Micah 6:8

    “Blessed are the merciful, they will be shown mercy.”

    In other words: how comforted you will all be when you choose to return only kindness to your ‘enemy.’

    “For with the measure you measure against another, it will be measured back to you” Christ warns his disciples as he explains the law of karma in Luke 6:27-38.

    “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they see God.”

    In other words: how comforted you will be when you WAKE UP and see God is already within you, within every man, every woman and every child. The Supreme Being is everywhere, the Alpha and Omega, beginning and end. Beyond The Universe -and yet so small; within the heart of every atom.

    “Blessed are The Peacemakers: THEY shall be called the children of God.”

    And what a wonderful world it would be when we all seek peace by pursuing justice; for there can be none without the other.

    “Blessed are those who are persecuted because they do what God requires, theirs is The Kingdom of Heaven.”

    And one fine day the lion will lie down with The Lamb and man will make war no more and that is the Kingdom of God.

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